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A reasonably informative article.

It must pain HNers in US that if they perceive these items as problems then they have little access to tasty unpasteurized cheeses which would help ease the blows.

http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/consumers/ucm079516....

I'm from Oz originally, and they unfortunately ban unpasteurized cheese too.



I think you've been slightly misinformed.

You can get raw milk and cheese all over New Hampshire, including in supermarkets, and apparently many other states for that matter[1]. I never even knew there were restrictions in some states until your comment.

Apparently, even where raw milk/cheese is banned in the U.S., cheese produced from raw milk is legal as long as its been aged for more than 60 days.

[1] http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/raw_milk_map.htm


I toned down my language to 'little access'... this was all just a tongue in cheek reference to another EU - USA difference.

Your link is good information... there are many states where it looks quite difficult to get unless you have a local farmers' market


Huh? The selection of both pasteurized and raw-milk (local and imported) cheeses at the little local co-op here in northern New England is astounding; far more options than I’ve seen in all but the best cheese shops abroad—-I can get all of my favorite foreign cheeses here, whereas I’ve never found my favorite american cheeses while traveling.


I have no trouble getting access to raw milk cheeses in Chicago.


Would you have trouble if you had a picnic in Wisconsin and forgot to pack some ?

http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/raw_milk_map.htm

simonsarris kindly helped me out ( myself being in the UK )


I don't know. I don't picnic in Wisconsin all that often. If you're not from the US, you should be aware of Wisconsin's peculiar relationship with dairy; they wear it on their heads as much as eat it.


My wife and I made strawberry ice cream from raw milk and raw cream just last week. It's easily available in California, just like unpasteurized cheeses.


Brie de Meaux honks like stale feet anyway! Seriously, opened some up in the car once, big mistake, it stank for ages.


> Brie de Meaux honks like stale feet anyway!

Not sure what your point is, it's still delicious. Also brie is not the worst smelling cheese by a very long shot. Maroilles is way worse and used in tarts (a common saying is that after you make a maroilles tart you have to throw out the oven).

And of course they have nothing on (non-cheese) surströmming or hákarl


I just meant that you're not necessarily missing out, IMHO.

Brie in general I love. But the only time I've tried brie de meaux from unpasteurised milk it really, really stank and I didn't care for the taste either. And I will eat most ripe and blue cheeses happily.

I've yet to try surstromming after being warned off it by a Swedish friend. Of course he didn't seem to like any Swedish food so may not be the best person to listen to on that count!


> I just meant that you're not necessarily missing out, IMHO.

If that's what you meant, I can only state that, as far as I'm concerned, you're definitely and unambiguously wrong.


Stinking Bishop and Epoisses can clear a house


Vieux Lille FTW! I have family in Nord Pas De Calais who dip it in their coffee in the morning.


The FDA banned interstate commerce of unpasteurized milk products (except cheeses aged past 60 days). This means that companies cannot produce unpasteurized products in one state to sell in others.

However, despite the interstate commerce ban, some 29ish states have various states of unpasteurized sales, ranging from allowing it in grocery stores to only allowing it to be sold from the farms.

In my state, raw milk products cannot be sold at grocery stores except where allowed by federal law (cheeses past 60 days).




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