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Coffee has been getting more expensive for years, albeit mainly due to climate-related factors rather than political ones. In northern Europe it (like most things) is a lot more expensive.

Does the deal actually allow food to be imported into the EU if it does not comply with EU health and safety regulations?

It does not.

Is it still assault if the guy is just standing there, within punching distance, without even wearing a helmet?

Does he have a flag?

The bar only updates once that entire step is complete (ie, if step 1 of 3 is downloading roads, it won't tell you what % of roads have been downloaded, but rather it will remain at 0% until all roads are downloaded at which point it will jump to 33%).

> As another self-hating nerd writer put it, “through all these years I make experiment if my sins or Your mercy greater be.”

Out of curiosity I searched this quote in Google, DDG and Claude and none of them found any source. Anyone know who the other self-hating nerd writer is? Sounds a bit like John Donne.


I was also curious about this quote, and it sounded to me too like Donne (or Pascal or Robert Boyle, a bit).

But Gemini 3.0 knew what it was, and it is from Omar Khayyám like the sibling commenter said, but from the little-known E. H. Whinfield translation (1883) rather than the more famous Fitzgerald one:

—-

221. (395.)

Such as I am, Thy power created me,

Thy care hath kept me for a century!

Through all these years I make experiment,

If my sins or Thy mercy greater be.

——-

Link to the actual page in Google books:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NN_TAAAAMAAJ&q=Experimen...


Don't know it, but this website attributes it to the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam: https://theomarkhayyamclubofamerica.wordpress.com/extended-r...

(Edited on reading more closely) Or possibly some fan work, since this "Extended Rubaiyat" isn't entirely from Omar Khayyam. So this doesn't pin down the provenance of the phrase.


Most of the comments here are. HN hates lawyers.

Many on HN are sad that even with tech workers/businesses having extreme wealth they're still not seen as better than the 'old elite'.

There is pretty much no way this was ever not going to happen, given Wikipedia's position and structure. It is a massive repository of knowledge, that is consulted by millions if not billions of people around the world on a regular basis, that is (in theory) editable by anyone and that has articles on just about every conceivable topic, including many politically charged ones. There must be immense pressure to use it to propagate all kinds of narratives. Given all of that, I think it does as good a job as can be expected of remaining objective, but absolutely you need to be careful when reading articles on politically charged topics (which is true of all media).

The article is based on the assumption that when we ban things for children only, it is because we perceive them to be harmful to children only. I don't think that is true. Nobody thinks adults are immune from the negative effects of cigarettes or alcohol. But adults are, in general, allowed to harm themselves. Children are not, because there is an acceptance that children are less able to make informed decisions. You can take issue with that and obviously bright-line rules based on age are highly imperfect, but it's a very different discussion to the one the article is trying to have.

Granted, there is also evidence that social media has particularly harmful effects on children, which no doubt strengthens the argument. But in the general case bans targeted towards children are not (just) about that.

Ultimately the article seems to be trying to argue (implicitly) that we shouldn't ban, regulate or tax anything, because if we were to do that, we would then need to ban, regulate and tax everything in order to be "consistent". It's a common argument I see from libertarians online, including on HN. If you're going to ban guns, surely you should also ban knives and cars? If presented with a choice between permitting one specific thing or prohibiting all the things, most people will choose the former. But it's a false dichotomy. The law can treat different things and situations differently, even if those things/situations have some commonalities.


Cigarettes and alcohol are more strictly regulated for children than for adults, but are regulated for both, because adults are allowed to harm themselves, but there is a general agreement that the law should discourage that. Yet the call for a social media ban on children is (or at least that's my impression) never accompanied with proposed regulation for adults, or a stricter enforcement of already in place but unenforced rules. I totally agree with you on how the "we shouldn't ban A, because then we should ban everything else" is a false argument, although it didn't seem to me that was the argument on the article (but close to everyone on HN catched that, so I'm going to read the article again with a fresh mind in a couple of days, maybe I just missed that)

But also, the effects of some things on developing children are different (arguably more impactful) than on adults.

We talk about education, nurturing, etc, and how vital they are to children. We also know drugs that have different effects on children than on adults.

Why then it's so surprising social platforms could also have a bigger impact on children?


IMO this is a consequence of Raspberry Pi going for-profit and IPOing. Now they are incentivised to chase the same hype trains as every other public tech company. I can't see them having another "Raspberry Pi moment", those are too risky now.

That said, more options at the (relatively speaking) low end of the AI hardware market probably isn't a bad thing. I'm not particularly an AI enthusiast generally, but if it is going to infest everything anyway, then at least I would like a decent ecosystem for running local models.


> By the way, don't come lazily asking for input. Go out proactively and find the answers yourself.

The EU very regularly asks for input on new policy initiatives, it's one of the better aspects of the legislative/policy-making process. They are asking citizens' opinions on a policy that will potentially affect them, if you tell them to f off and do it themselves then don't be surprised when you hate the policy that comes out of it.


I don't tell them to F off, I give them my citizen opinion on HN. I expect their policy to be in their best interest, and I stopped hating on that a long time ago.

> The EU very regularly asks for input on new policy initiatives, it's one of the better aspects of the legislative/policy-making process.

And then it basically ignores all the input and moves forward with policies like chat control that are widely unpopular anyway. So much for consulting the people and asking for feedback.


Yes but we gotta understand that sometimes some things the citizens suggest end up on the law. So we should just continuously fight to keep that happening.

Additionally, the EU and its administration, is a big group of people. There are probably different people or teams pushing for this idea, which all in all, is a very good one, maybe even fellow (ex) open source contributors, and the ChatControl thing, surely comes from other groups with entirely different interests.


Yes. Probably someone in power is getting kickbacks to ignore the public and specialists. Once that hurdle is settled, whatever the way it happens, saner people can re-use previous requests for opinion to guide them on better paths.

Waste some - but not too much - of your energy poking our EU orgs to the right way.


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