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That's really depressing. Makes me question my participation in the site a little bit (never joined the chat or wanted to).

Do you have any actual examples?



It's the first agenda item on the Python SO team's winter meeting: http://sopython.com/transcript/3/winter-2015-general-meeting...

They were just discussing it on chat today: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/6/15-16

I've never gotten involved in Chat before, either, but just searching the most active chatroom for `cv-` brought that up immediately.


"Better to have a bad question closed quickly than have it accumulate bad answers and rude comments and downvotes."

Unless it's offensive in some way, this seems like a terribly short-sighted way of handling bad questions. Ask questions back or offer suggestions for improving the question. Closing or deleting it doesn't teach the person anything, and it doesn't help the community.


Furthermore, it assumes excellent judgement on the part of the closers, who by definition don't have the full context. They are confident in imagining that a particular question will accumulate bad answers etc, but do they have any data to demonstrate that their imagination is any good? It may be, but then again, it may not be. It's not like no one has ever had bad judgement before.

So it might be useful to bias the site toward leaving questions open, and let people make weighted votes for closing. Initially, the weight of a vote would be zero. This would allow the quality of an individual's judgement to be established, and their vote given more weight as it proved to be more predictive of whether or not an issue was eventually closed.


Totally. I do come across duplicates and bad questions which necessarily must be closed, but I always do my best to help solve the problem that the human on the other end of the question is experiencing via the comments. There are rules, mostly good, mostly in need of enforcement to keep quality up, and I think they work in the individual human context.

There's a balance of rights / responsibilities, and if you have the right to closevote questions and earn magical rep points, you have the responsibility to explain why and try to help.

Herd-mentality and behaviour (demonstrated as closevote requests) seem like the opposite of this.


This is a fantasic point. My highest rated most viewed question was one that I thought was stupid when I asked it. 5 years later it has tons of votes answers and backlinks.


What would solve the problem is if these "bad questions" were simply invisible to crawling.

Rude comments and inappropriate downvotes sounds like a community issue - why are those not punished or otherwise dis-incentivized?

Maybe they need a metamod function.


Huh, I didn't see that discussion before I wrote the comment, but I was specifically referring to sopython.

They mean well, but it does feel a bit like a mob at times.


I'm sorry you feel that way Joe.

The Room Owners have felt for a while now that it can sometimes get out of hand, that's why we had this discussion in our Room Meeting. As davidism has mentioned, we've put some extra guidelines down now. The main one being that unless it's necessary (something like spam, offensive, dupe, etc, where the OP isn't going to be able to improve the post) we're adding a 10 minute "grace period" before requesting a cv-pls. This gives OPs the chance to edit their question, to respond to comments, etc.

I disagree with a few of your points, but I'm not really interested in getting drawn into a debate here. If you want to discuss it further then drop by chat.

I know you've come into the room in the past to ask/speak about some particular cv-pls. If, in the future, you have anything to bring up, come and speak to us.


We recognize that it's gotten a bit out of control lately, hence the topic during the meeting. I think we ended up with some good guidelines for managing it.




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