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Wow, thats like almost what everyone is entitled to in most industrialized countries!

What a great company to work for!



In those countries the government pays for it, not the company.

Somebody has to pay for it, you know. Do you have your own company? I'd like to see how much you pay for paternity leave.


Perhaps you don't know that some employers in those God-forsaken socialist countries will offer a “top-up” benefit, which pays a portion of your regular salary in addition to normal maternity/paternity benefits.

I don't understand why American-elite are so tax adverse, higher taxes could be used to support a more stable society, and consequently, protect their own wealth.


They are adverse because your tax rate is to use a legal term: fucking insane.

Did you know that before Obamacare / Bushcare, America spent more on medicaid as a percentage of GDP than Canada did for its entire healthcare system?

Protip: Make your government more efficient, and stop spending more than every other nation on earth combined on arms. Or just watch the cross of iron speech from 60 years ago where Dwight 'bombs away' Einsenhower said your military spending was to use a political term: fucking insane.


Yes, I have my own company, I only have contractors right now, and yes I pay for it, in my taxes.

Here's a better question since the 'government' is paying for it, what's your top corporate tax rate? IIRC it's 35%, mine is 19%.


Not really. The effective corporate tax rate is 9%.


You know, I won't argue with you about the leave.

But it's distinctly atypical in America -- the fmla only mandates 12 weeks of unpaid leave, and that only for companies with more than 50 employees. CA does provide for 6 weeks at 55% of salary, capped at roughly $1k a week.

So despite your nonsense, Google is doing something quite generous -- and for professionals making, say, $150k it costs them probably on the order of $125k.


Googles paid maternity leave is more than people get in Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Cyprus, Estonia, France, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, and Ukraine in Europe.

In the Americas, Google's paid leave is bested by only Canada and Chile, and tied with Venezuela.

It's better than anything in Africa.

In Asia/Pacific, it ties Iran, and beats everyone else.


Let's be a little careful here. "<X> should do <Y> because most <Z>'s do <Y>" (or some variation thereof) is an incredibly poor argument to make.

Most industrialized nations have stronger restrictions on free speech than America, for example.


Well, if by freedom of expression you mean the right walk around in a Nazi uniform then yes.

If by freedom of expression you mean the right to be a woman and take off her shirt in the same places men can take off their shirt, then no.


Your words, not mine. I said freedom of speech.


> Most industrialized nations have stronger restrictions on free speech than America, for example.

Yet, most have a higher quality of life. France (for example) works the fewest hours per week, yet the highest GDP per capita (EDIT: added hour) hour. They get 5 weeks minimum for vacation per year, plus 22 days more if you choose to work more than 35 hours per week!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statutory_minimum_emplo...

"Think about it. Nationmaster ranks France as #18 in terms of GDP per capita, at $36,500 per person, yet France works much less than most developed nations. They achieve their high standard of living while working 16% less hours than the average world citizen, and almost 25% than their Asian peers as per UBS. Plus, if you visit France you'll also realize that their actual standard of living is probably much higher than GDP numbers would indicate.

Thus, if one were to divide France's GDP per capita by actual hours worked, you'd probably find that the French are achieving some of the highest returns on work-hours invested. Labor Alpha, if you will.

We can actually calculate this Labor Alpha using statistics from Nation Master.

France has $36,500 GDP/Capita and works 1,453 hours per year. This equates to a GDP/Capita/Hour of $25.10. Americans, on the other hand, have $44,150 GDP/Capita but work 1,792 hours per year. Thus Americans only achieve $24.60 of GDP/Capita/Hour.

This puts the French Labor Alpha at about $0.50 GDP/Capita/Hour over the US. It may sound small at first, but add that up across millions of people, and a few decades. Now you've built a lesson for the rest of the world to learn."

http://www.businessinsider.com/are-the-french-the-most-produ...


GDP (PPP) per hour worked is over 10% lower in France[1]. GDP (PPP again) per capita is over 30% lower.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PP...


One could only dream, though of course, that requires you to get a job in france; they have their own unemployment problems and a quoted 10% unemployment rate [1]. I'm sure it's much higher amongst the youth and minorities.

Does anyone know if that rate is best compared to U3, U4, U5, or U6?

[1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11101137/Sick-F...


The salary difference between the US and the rest of the industrialized world is so massive, especially at IT giants, that probably even a completely unpaid leave would average out to more money than in, say, France.




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