@benihana
1. By running I mean like staying in Zone 3 for an hour or more. Or Zone 4/5 for a minute or two.
2. You call it discomfort, I call it pain, for effect, probably not appropriate but I hope you didn't vote me down for this.
3. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not people enjoy pain (most don't). Exercise in general involves a number of components that feel good and feel bad but the bad is significantly more explicit then the good. This is not a fact but its a generality that's kind of evident when you see the obesity epidemic sweeping across 1st world countries. The majority of the population generally doesn't like to exercise because it is painful and uncomfortable. I think most people can comprehend this statement and it is not a logical fallacy; It is an evident generality.
Sometimes I see people in runner circles talk about a thing called "runners high" like it's cocaine, totally glossing over evident factors like why most normal won't run 10 miles just to chase a fabled runner's high. The logic here is obvious: the pain is not worth the high to most people.
I can't be sure but I think what's going on with those runners is what's going on here in this thread, a sort of unconscious denial about an obvious generality.
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If weight training doesn't involve any pain, then I can't speak for it. I'm speaking for exercise in general which I believe I am correct.
4. Pain is usually not something that is enjoyed. If you do enjoy it it tends to be something that was learned. Like wine or beer. If that's not the case for you, ok, but I think the general notion is that these things are an "acquired taste" aka "learned," hence the presumption.
And yes I am telling people that they may not really be exercising. I see a lot of people quitting and doing things incorrectly with useless results.
5. Millions may exercise but Billions and billions of more people don't exercise because it's painful and uncomfortable. Are you telling me these groups of people cannot even comprehend one another? I think the average athlete has enough intelligence to comprehend why he is one of the few and why the majority of people on this earth don't exercise. Anecdotal evidence on this thread is nothing compared to anecdotal evidence from the real world.
2. You call it discomfort, I call it pain, for effect, probably not appropriate but I hope you didn't vote me down for this.
3. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not people enjoy pain (most don't). Exercise in general involves a number of components that feel good and feel bad but the bad is significantly more explicit then the good. This is not a fact but its a generality that's kind of evident when you see the obesity epidemic sweeping across 1st world countries. The majority of the population generally doesn't like to exercise because it is painful and uncomfortable. I think most people can comprehend this statement and it is not a logical fallacy; It is an evident generality.
Sometimes I see people in runner circles talk about a thing called "runners high" like it's cocaine, totally glossing over evident factors like why most normal won't run 10 miles just to chase a fabled runner's high. The logic here is obvious: the pain is not worth the high to most people.
I can't be sure but I think what's going on with those runners is what's going on here in this thread, a sort of unconscious denial about an obvious generality. -- If weight training doesn't involve any pain, then I can't speak for it. I'm speaking for exercise in general which I believe I am correct.
4. Pain is usually not something that is enjoyed. If you do enjoy it it tends to be something that was learned. Like wine or beer. If that's not the case for you, ok, but I think the general notion is that these things are an "acquired taste" aka "learned," hence the presumption.
And yes I am telling people that they may not really be exercising. I see a lot of people quitting and doing things incorrectly with useless results.
5. Millions may exercise but Billions and billions of more people don't exercise because it's painful and uncomfortable. Are you telling me these groups of people cannot even comprehend one another? I think the average athlete has enough intelligence to comprehend why he is one of the few and why the majority of people on this earth don't exercise. Anecdotal evidence on this thread is nothing compared to anecdotal evidence from the real world.