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And in one go, NSA moves from evil fuckers to Dropbox-for-the-whole-world.

Next step, political refugee uses NSA records to determine who was torturing him in Afghanistan.

To be fair it's absolutely brilliant - the only real defence we have against total surveillance is to be able to see what the guards are watching as they watch. This is a step along that road. Mr Brown may be doing the world a much bigger favour than we think.



If it all hushes down and we begin to get on with our daily lives, with the program still intact, perhaps you'll be able to make an information request. For a fee of course, oh hang on, isn't that how it already works?

You've got more faith in the freedom of information than sadly I! Perhaps information will randomly go missing. Just like the spurious claim that the CCTV network was down on the London underground on 7/7 (really??)

Or you'll get it rebuffed under something like: ‘likely to prejudice the defence of the British Island’

http://peacenews.info/node/6840/remote-killing

Hot air from the Tories in 2010:

http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2010/04/~/med...

1. Never again be governed for years by a prime minister with no popular mandate. (Isn't that rather ironically exactly what we got!)

3. They'll expand on the freedom of information act.

7. They'll protect whistleblowers.

8. The right to data act, the public will have the right to appeal if public bodies refuse requests for data collected by the government.


Re: missing CCTV, aren't you thinking of the death of Jean Charles de Menezes two weeks after 7/7?



Before we do that, let's establish, out in the open, that these laws are Constitutional. The Constitution still matters - right?


Honestly, if total surveillance is constitutional, you have to figure the constitution isn't really that good.


Thank you ! Best laugh I've had all day.

I actually suspect that total surveillance is in fact, inevitable. Or possibly already here. All the NSA seems to be doing is pulling together existing digital records. There seems to be little original surveillance if that makes sense.


I think perhaps this would lead to having a Constitutional amendment banning the government from watching what the American public does. Oh wait...


Does this gives Bowman another chance to appeal against Monsanto, in the Biotechnology suit?




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