Cross-connection: Some of the early arcade video titles from Bally/Midway that were designed by Nutting Associates (including Robby Roto and Gorf) were written in Forth. There you go.

Yes please. I am not one for long meta discussions. However, once a big story breaks out, there are plenty of places to discuss it outside of HN. Reddit for example has a much larger audience. Mainstream media has been all over the NSA news too. In fact, half of the stories cover on HN have been from The Atlantic and NY Times. The other side of this argument is that a story like the one about NSA is affecting hackers.

I guess sometimes I wish HN had a separate section for articles that start with "Political: ..."