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There’s no app for Apple platforms making it a lot less useful.




That's probably because AFAIK Apple doesn't allow process forking, making any Tor-based messenger almost impossible to run as Tor would have to run as part of the main thread.

It's because iOS needs push notifications to resume background apps, and there's no secure way to do the push notifications

https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#will-t...


but having the bluetooth part working on iOS should not be an issue right?

This is entirely false, Apple allows the use of threads in their applications.

Oh I found a better explanation

>iOS doesn’t allow apps to fork subprocesses. While on the desktop Tor is running as a separate process, on iOS Tor is hacked to run as a thread inside the app itself. Therefore, you can’t have a system-wide Tor process like desktop and Android. If Tor is running in one app, and you open a different one, it’s not automagically going to start using Tor.

https://www.quora.com/How-effective-is-the-Tor-app-for-iPad-...


True but I assume Apple users understand they exclude themselves by demanding a "benevolent dictator" insuring they are "safe".

Apple pulled similar apps from the App Store: https://www.npr.org/2019/10/10/768841864/after-china-objects...

Similar? Very different. The HKmap.live app was build and marketed directly for the protests. It tracked social media and geolocated where the police and protests were happening, etc. This is a big distinction.

Briar has the advantage of being usable with bluetooth and internet so it makes it much more useful.

Bitchat also has internet based chat, in addition to bluetooth mesh.


"Warning: the Android app (including apk) is currently unavailable for download and use due to an ongoing essential security update."

fair point, especially in the west. But looking at the market share, Android is probably the platform to build for, especially if you have an additional phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

Buy a cheap shit android phone for under $100 and never associate it with a SIM



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