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The HOV lanes cause absurd amounts of congestion, both from encouraging all the HOV drivers to aggressively switch lanes, and because they greatly increase the speed differential between lanes.

They’re a money / surveillance grab.



Is there data to support this or is this just your hunch? Because I’m betting this is false.

It’s not a money grab as much as moving more of the actual cost of freeways onto drivers who are mostly used to externalizing it


people drive slow in HOV lanes. and the. in the lane next to it, people do too. it destroys the natural speed hierarchy of highway driving.


no one respects that hierarchy anymore anyway in my experience. The HOV lane is usually traveling faster that the passing lane.


I really would like to see a citation for how adding new, congestion-free lanes with limited opportunities for merging to an already congested highway makes it worse.


yeah i think you’re just making up reasons to be mad about something you were going to dislike.




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