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All this hand-wringing about surveillance powers is not keeping up with how quickly our ability to surveil people is expanding. The fourth amendment seems kind of like a wet fart in a timeline where private companies can surveil the public and then simply choose to share their data with law enforcement.

I had to buy a surveillance camera recently, but I made sure mine doesn’t connect to the internet in any way.



How does your total solution work? Today, there's a lot of convenience with Nest. Is there an equivalent experience that doesn't involve exposing your data to megacorps?


HomeKit secure video is cloud stored, but end to end encrypted


Not having to expose data to mega corps is one part of the solution, but more so there should be a solution where government can’t so trivially circumvent 4th amendment by purchasing the data from corps they’re not allowed to collect w/o a warrant.


I don’t know what the “equivalent experience” is, since I never really cared to learn what Nest does or why people want it.


PoE cameras, frigate, home assistant.


I mean the feed has to be written to a storage and this storage I immediately backup off-site in the case someone is clever enough to immediately go for such (e.g. burglary).


I think one of the traps we fall into is imagining that an attacker is somehow intelligent (someone who can immediately attack video storage) but simultaneously uncreative (doesn’t think of some way to make the surveillance footage irrelevant).

I’ve decided that I’m not a high-profile target for covert operatives, but I am a target of opportunity for people who have access to my data once that data is outside of my control. The decisions I make based on that are decisions like, “No surveillance feed goes into cloud services operated by companies I don’t trust,” but “I don’t need to encrypt my NAS”.


Stupid burglars get caught. It is only a matter of time till burglars learn to combat this. For example, a MITM on the camera. Thing is, neighbors also got one. If I get threatened to remove the video, I will oblige. If everything gets destroyed in a fire due to cobra's, there's a backup. That's my threat model. And silent data corrupt on the camera feed storage could also occur.




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