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The partnership is structured so that Apple can legally defend including language in their marketing that says things like "users’ IP addresses are obscured." These corporations have proven time and time again that we need to read these statements with the worst possible interpretation.

For example, when they say "requests are not stored by OpenAI," I have to wonder how they define "requests," and whether a request not having been stored by OpenAI means that the request data is not accessible or even outright owned by OpenAI. If Apple writes request data to an S3 bucket owned by OpenAI, it's still defensible to say that OpenAI didn't store the request. I'm not saying that's the case; my point is that I don't trust these parties and I don't see a reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

The freakiest thing about it is that I probably have no way to prevent this AI integration from being installed on my devices. How could that be the case if there was no profit being extracted from my data? Why would they spend untold amounts on this deal and forcibly install expensive software on my personal devices at no cost to me? The obvious answer is that there is a cost to me, it's just not an immediate debit from my bank account.



> The partnership is structured so that Apple can legally defend including language in their marketing that says things like "users’ IP addresses are obscured." These corporations have proven time and time again that we need to read these statements with the worst possible interpretation.

What's the worst possible interpretation of Apple and CloudFlare's iCloud Private Relay?


Requests are not stored by openai, but stored by Apple and available on request.

Is how I interpret that. It's similar to that OneDrive language which was basically allowing user directed privacy invasion.

Inevitably,openai will consume and regurgitate all data it touches.

It is not clean and anyone thinking openai won't brutalize your data for it's race to general AI is delusional in one of several ways.


I’m not sure I understand the paranoia that Apple is secretly storing your data. Sure they could secretly do so but it doesn’t make any sense. Their whole schtick is privacy. What would Apple benefit from violating what is essentially their core value prop? They’d be one whistleblower away from permanent and irreparable loss of image.


Theyre not secretly. They are. They admit it.

The question is, is it encrypted E2E everywhere, how controlled is it on device, how often is it purged.

The ubiquity of cloud means theres a huge privacy attack.surface and unclear how much ofvthat is auditable.

Lastly, theres no reason to think Apple will avoid enshittification as the value of their ecosystem and users grow.

Just takes one bad quarter and a greedy MBA to tear down the walls.

Past privacy protection is no Guarantee of future protection.




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