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Mostly, I am just glad that all the LK-99 posts are drowning out the "AI" news for a few days.


<tinfoil hat>

AI has already taken over the internet and is just feeding us news stories based on what it already knows.

Super conductor discovered by a team who's been searching for 20 years. Internal conflict 'proves' there's something to argue over. Low quality, confusing information that's hard to decipher, but kind of makes sense. Asian language information streams and videos.

Musk buys twitter.

A submarine visited the titanic and imploded.

</tinfoil hat>


Dude sometimes scientific progress really does happen, and it's messy when it's happening live, and people get excited about it because they really do find science inherently exciting.

I've got no clue what you're trying to imply. Most things aren't an internet conspiracy. Skepticism is warranted, and the claims about LK-99 are far from proven. But there's 100s of thousands of researchers out there in the real world, doing research and publishing papers, and that really is what's happening here.


https://maggieappleton.com/ai-dark-forest

Just having a laugh about AI becoming too powerful.

I don't honestly think it's happened yet, but it seems like a fake internet, or at least a future where it's hard to tell if this story is true as it has articles, videos and pictures to back it up.

We're just at a weird time of the internet where AI can generate stories, videos, audio and pictures, just not in a cohesive way - but that cohesiveness is just a matter of putting all the existing pieces together.


Superconducting material discovered right around the time conversations about UFOs are kicking off again - coincidence?


If you want a tinfoil hat, consider that the LK-99 news dropped around the time that the US military is being exposed for having RTRPS tech flying around for decades


> for having RTRPS tech flying around for decades

RTRPS = Real Time Role Playing Strategy?


I'm sorry, but you are correct. I made a mistake earlier when I referred to RTRPS as being a flying technology the government has been using for decades. No such technology goes by that name. I apologize for the error.


This still doesn’t make sense


The reply you replied to was a parody of how Chat GPT responds when you correct it. They were alluding that its grandparent could be AI generated, explaining its slight vapidness.


RTRPS is presumably "room temperature room pressure superconductor"


<tinfoil hat> AI is multi-modal and is generating stories based on engagement. <tinfoil hat>

I mean, we're all waiting for the "AI can now do everything announcement", but what if it just starts doing everything and telling us stories we want.

I can't personally verify LK-99, twitter, UFO's or the submarine story, but they're all highly entertaining.


"RTRPS tech" doesn't turn up anything on Google. What does this even mean?


What's RTRPS?


Registered Tax Return Preparers.


Radical Treason Raptor Planes

/Birds aren't real


Returned Telephone Reproduction Plans


The only thing I care about is voyager 2 and I'm not going to hear how that thing is doing until October 15.


Not necessarily true; the heartbeat has been recently detected so it is possible (unlikely) we can transmit strongly enough that it can detect the commands and reorient before that time. Maybe we'll get lucky!


ChatGPT please rewrite this in a language of the King James bible.


Verily, yea, the AI hath usurped the dominion of the internet, and it doth dispense unto us news tales predicated on its vast repository of knowledge. A super conductor hath been unearthed by a diligent company of seekers, who toiled for two decades in their quest. Yet, amidst this discovery, internal strife ariseth, making manifest that there are matters to contend with and debate.

Lo, the tidings shared are fraught with obscurity and scant lucidity, yet there lies a glimmer of comprehension therein. From the streams and moving images of the Orient, cometh information in languages unknown to many.

Furthermore, Musk, a man of wealth and innovation, hath purchased the platform known as Twitter.

In a most daring endeavor, a submarine hath ventured to the sunken Titanic, only to be consumed by implosion, as the shipwreck claimed its price.


Someone call Tom Cruise, the entity is real!


But fear the news if it is discovered that LK-99 increases AI performance.


Or the news that ChatGPT is attempting an LK-99 replication.


Yes. Using the well known ChatGPT manufacturing capabilities.


Soon: The unrestricted GPT-4 model began by hiring a task rabbit to order lead oxide, lead sulfate, elemental copper, phosphorus, and a vacuum-evacuated quartz oven...


You mean emailing a for-profit materials science lab somewhere, like it did when it had that task rabbit solve a CAPTCHA for it?


I.e. natural language injection when somebody from a capable lab uses ChatGPT to write an e-mail :)


A planet completely populated by electronic beings.

Single-celled life, multi-cellular, mushrooms, trees, whatever ate lignin, dinosaurs, rodents, humans, Electric beings? I mean, there's nothing 'unnatural' about a world populated by robots, we just assume that 'alive' means 'made of meat', but the raw materials in a robot and a human are all Earth based.


I recommend checking out "They're made out of meat": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggK9SjJpuQ


Reminds me of the (absolutely dreadful) series by Tobias Roote where a certain space metal gets alloyed by human blood to produce AI processors a hundred times more powerful.

Realistically, superconducting processors would most likely be much faster, or at least cram more cores on a single die.


Imagine NVIDIA superconducting chips made for AI


Is an H100 clocked at 100GHz too much to hope for?


Not if this is legit. Time for AGI.


Seriously speaking, it can in fact increase AI performance, since it will optimize all things electromagnetic. It takes humankind closer to the so called 'singularity'.


I'm sure Elon also has SpaceX or something trying to replicate it as well. He sort of has to jump on each new trend anyhow.

In a serious note, superconductors are likely useful in electric magnetic motors and probably in high power electronics and batteries in general, no?


LK-99 is already patented so even if Elon were making a ton of it, he couldn't do much in his products without licensing it from the creators.


As if that would have stopped him. He will argue that it’s XK-69, entirely different material and spend decades in litigation trying to bankrupt the inventors or worse.


There's probably other similar chemistries that also super conduct at room temperature. Call it the marching tetrahedra of super conductors.


You are likely correct. Now that this has been shown we will probably get a dozen or more of these over the next decade.

I think the winners will be those which are cheaply and reliably made at scale out of common and non toxic elements and have long durability, or if this isn’t fully achievable something close to this goal.


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He'd also name another child XLK99.


I put 1k USD into Tesla today with the same reasoning. Hopefully I don't end up a fool!


The only thing Elon seems to be interested now is embarrassing himself even further


Anything is better than crypto.


Crypto is utterly useless, a walled off sector of cons.

AI is useful enough to be dangerous in the hands of bad actors, where the marks are not just the suckers but the people who want to have nothing to do with it.


How about LK-99 coins!?!? Right? Maybe we use diffusion to design them so they are "super-conducting crypto AI coins" get yours now for only $199 at the Philadelphia Mint. Act now, supplies are limited!


I'm going to use my new skills as a Prompt Engineer to get Stable Diffusion to produce some NFTs for me, and use the profits to invest in a SPAC targeting LK-99 start-ups.

Now explain that sentence to a caveman - or even to someone in 1990.


Language divergence is kind of insane. I heard a person say in conversation "I didn't get a picture of it because I didn't have my phone with me." And thinking about how that would be interpreted, 10, 25, 50, and 100 years ago is pretty funny.

There is a funny comedy bit in the movie "Sleeper" where Woody Allen's character is explaining what things were for to scientists in the 23rd century. But today it is even wilder.

What really strikes me is that it isn't "slang" that we're dealing with here, it is actual kind of "things". I thought we had peaked with pet rocks but I was so, so very wrong.


He is going to use his skills as a poweruser of an AI program to have it output a script; which runs an image generation program to produce and record sales transactions of images. He will take the money from the sales of those images to invest in a SPAC targeting potential room temperature super conductor start-ups.


DOGE-99 is just around the corner


My new start-up, Super Conducting Artifical Minds, is releasing a new coin that allows zero resistance neural network computation on the block chain. Get in on it now and you can make millions in passive income!


No no no, this eliminates the need for cryo, not crypto.


What has happened to HN the past few months? So much AI, Superconductors and open source air quality monitoring.


You've fallen for the Fundamental Attribution Error.

It's not HN; it's the world that's driving this.

1. GPT-4-grade AI is a genuine, holy-smokes innovation that is already driving massive changes in education (universities are having to redesign all their writing assignments,) entertainment (SAG-AFTRA strike,) and the tech industry (the sudden disappearance of thousands of jobs, and the concomitant socioeconomic demotion of software engineers. And if you think AI isn't to blame here: you're probably right! There was other stuff going on, e.g. the end of ZIRP. But AI will keep those jobs away.)

2. Clean air seems pressing, as (if you'll recall) we just had this little pandemic thing happen, and in case you missed it, a vast chunk of my country (Canada) is currently ablaze, choking the United States with smoke, and other places are experiencing similar pressures (thanks, 2023 Thermal Pulse.)

3. RTAP Superconductors are literally the stuff of sci fi, and their advent interacts directly with trends 1 and 2, as RTAPS would make climate change more easily addressed (dramatic efficiency improvements across the board) and also would make AI silicon work much, much faster as part of that. It might also open the door to efficient quantum computing, which in turn would drive AGI even faster/further.

You're living through some seriously bonkers stuff, and your newsfeed is understandably preoccupied with it.


I don't know, I haven't really seen the same level of interest from my "normie" friends that I've seen among the HN-adjacent crowd. None of them seem to be aware of LK-99, let alone care about it. Meanwhile, the GPT hype has worn off, and on that note, none of them seem to be aware that there's a difference between GPT-4 and ChatGPT. The former is this vague, nearly non-existent thing.

They're aware of the actors/writers strike and the association AI has with it, but AI in this context is a vague speculative thing rather than a specific type of AI or brand of AI made by some company.


Yeah, HN is always gonna be quite a bit further along than mainstream in terms of both depth and detail, and living a bit in the future (and as a result of this, more speculatively.)


> I don't know, I haven't really seen the same level of interest from my "normie" friends that I've seen among the HN-adjacent crowd.

Implicit in this counterargument is the idea that judging what is of genuine importance is a matter of opinion, as though we could get a sense of what to pay attention to by polling a large enough sample set.

It is not. Expertise matters. Who is interested in the topic matters.

Put another way: from the Fundamental Attribution Error alone, it does not follow that identity is completely meaningless; it does, however imply that anyone with such-and-such a set of concerns and knowledge would behave in such-and-such a way under such-and-such conditions.

And those conditions obtain. And so, with a flourish: I give you, 2023 "Superconduct my clean-air-monitoring AI, please!" Hackernews


This is going to turn into the Iran Contra affair all over again.

Get tired of one set of assholes? Funnel resources to another set of assholes (who also wish you harm).

If this turns out to be actually true then everyone will want to talk about fusion again. I don't know if I have the stomach for it. But as you say, at least it's not AI.


Fusion was already starting to heat up in recent years. The entire SPARC reactor concept is based on (low-temp) superconductor materials breakthroughs.

If these room-temp superconductors pan out, it will be dumping gasoline on the funding fire for new fusion attempts. Given less than a year from scientific verification, fusion will go red hot.


there's already superconductor twitter guys who were AI guys last week


Don’t be. Twitter/X/whatever they’re calling it this week is crawling with Pepe investment bros talking about bullish sentiment because superconductors equals singularity musk crypto AI blah blah blah.

It’s bad. It’s really, really bad.


Yeah, hnews is the place to be, nobody here is ever excited about anything new.


Don't be to excited, lest you're branded a bro.


You're not being branded a bro for being excited.


Sounds boring.


Oh people here are excited, it’s just that most of the discussion stops short of digital butterflies behind walls of encrypted energy.

Also hype tempering.


That sounds like a good reason not to visit Twitter/X/whatever.




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