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I have a genuine Hakko 888, a “T12 clone” and a pinecil. These clones are usually not fake Hakko products but they use the very common T12/T15 tips. I got the T12 clone because I was moving and wanted something that worked on the voltage of my new country (it has a DC power input so it’s easy to change). This clone was like $20 and works just as well if not better than the real Hakko.

But I have yet to set it up in my new place because the $25 pinecil also works just as well and is so small and works on a usb-c power supply which I always have plugged in at my desk anyway.

So really I would just recommend the pinecil as your first iron.



Pinecil is $40 now. I got one and can't figure out how to power it, it complains about my power source. Is it picky? Any ideas?


It works with my Xiaomi and Lenovo 65W chargers. Maybe you can check the power of your charger and if it supports the PD protocol.


Not really, I’ve been using it at 15V and 20V. Not sure if it will work at 12 or 9. It will work at 5.


Typo: it will not work at 5V.


Pinecils are $26 on pine64.com atm.


I got amazon'd




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