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Silly question: If I'm understanding this correctly, doesn't this essentially mean that statistically it's possible to live forever? Or is there a point when you statistically have 100% probability of dying?


Sort of, depending on the model. For most models, if you take your "probability of dying in year X", and sum that over all the years from 0 to infinity, you'll get a 100% probability of dying at some point. The interesting thing is that there's no individual year with a 100% probability of dying - the certainty of death is just because "forever" is a really long time.

There are hypothetical distributions, though, where the sum total of probabilities is less than 100% - where some proportion of the population will, statistically, never die.

Of course this brings us to the real issue, which is that what the model says doesn't really matter - if the model disagrees with reality in extreme cases, reality wins.


On high ends it definitely is. It predicts no one could have ever lived past 116, but clearly some have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people


Think of it like entropy. Statistically a broken egg could place itself back together but that's never going to happen.


Entropy _is_ statistics ... it's just another measure for the probability of a given state.


This is just a model - a map of reality which may give some helpful predictions and insight about the territory, but is not the same thing as the territory (reality) itself. See, for instance, http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/The_map_is_not_the_territory


Sure. I'm just curious how out of sync the map is from the territory.


Well, sure. Except the equation gives a 2 in 7 billion chance of even making it to 114 (note that in reality your odds are empirically better). The odds of reaching 136 are 1 in 10^86. For comparison, there are only 10^80 atoms in the universe...


In practice, a sufficiently low probability is indistinguishable from 0.



Yeah, it doesn't quite account for the hard limits. Even by his equation, there should be a few 140 year olds strutting around.


No there shouldn't.

The odds of living to even 130 under his equation are 1 in 4.8*10^47. That's just a ...tad.. more people than have walked this planet.




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