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I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I am much more interested in what he has to say now than I was pre-collapse.


Yes, but you also seem to know more about the story than the average person. When SBF lies or gaslights, you can see right through it.

Different story for the average listener, who will be listening to most interactions with an open mind and susceptible to whichever person tends to be more charming or persuasive.


Is that true? I have to think that the average attendee of the New York Times's DealBook summit is probably going to be fairly high-information. I don't think the "average person" will even know about this conference much less care enough to watch the speeches.


This is true of basically every public figure.

I guess you're suggesting the NYT shouldn't let him speak, to protect us from ourselves? That's a startling position.


They are not letting me speak. They are not letting average fraudster waiting for court day to speak. Given that, yes, they should be able to not let speak whoever.

They are selecting very few people to speak and rejecting huge amounts of other people.

But the other real thing is how you introduce the speaker. What do you say about the speaker in your materials, whether you promote him as trustworthy or not.


> They are not letting me speak.

Please don't take this personally, but I generally have no interest in watching random people speak. They know their audience.

On the other hand, if they could secure an interview with Adolf Hitler himself, I would watch. Interest does not mean endorsement.


> Interest does not mean endorsement.

That does depend on how you introduce him and what questions you ask. It does matter on whether when he says lies about Jews for example in that interview, you let them stand unopposed. If you use positive or euphemisms ridden introduction, then you are endorsing actually. "The next speaker is smart awesome guy who has extensive experience in leading a crypto fund".

> if they could secure an interview with Adolf Hitler himself,

His speeches are no secret. If you invite Hitler, introduce him nicely and he then go about Jewish danger, they you are in fact helping him promote genocide. And that guy would not go for interview where he be in any danger of not dominating tone (he was good at popular politics).

But seriously, why is it that nazi speech is always the most important one? I dont see anyone going "interview with Usama Bin Ladin, lets have Pol Pot speaking, lets have Stalin speaking, we should add communists/anarchists/ISIS into the mix".


Since the event hasn't happened yet, you have no idea how they are going to treat SBF.

And... I have watched a few of Hitler's speeches? And somehow I'm still not a Nazi. Nor have I, to my knowledge, promoted genocide.

Give humans more credit. They're not stupid.


They're not letting every other criminal speak, is that also a startling position?


I'm not a fan of protecting people from themselves. Let them speak.


> Different story for the average listener, who will be listening to most interactions with an open mind and susceptible to whichever person tends to be more charming or persuasive.

That doesn't matter. Who cares how the public sees him? All that's going to matter is how a jury sees him shortly. And the prosecution will be able to present evidence.

In the meantime, let him keep speaking on the record and admitting to things. And providing a show for those of use who are paying attention.

Besides, I'm not sure how many "average listeners" are going to be tuning into the NYT event. I assume it's mostly people who have been following the story.


While I have little confidence in the average NYT reader I think people need to be able to make up their own minds, and Sam has an important and relevant perspective which we should be able to take into account, even if he might frame it in a way that makes him look good


It's not like he hasn't been talking or typing.

His lawyers probably reckoned he was talking way too much, was too much of a liability and dropped him immediately.

The real question is he keeps receiving positive media coverage? They keep trying to frame him as, just a "dumb kid and his friends" that "accidentally misplaced billions" - when in fact, it is pretty obvious he planned most of it, by how his complex corporate structure was and the constant deleting of evidence every step of the way.

Not to mention how he gave himself over a billion of personal loans and spending millions on bribes towards the end for hopes of political protection when he knew he was running out of rope to hide his scam.


Not sure where you’re seeing this coordinated effort to frame him positively. Im sure there are some takes like that, but there is also:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sit-in-th...

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-incom...

I’m seeing plenty of critical coverage. Are you really not seeing that?


Headlines like "Sam Bankman-Fried’s Plans to Save the World Went Down in Flames" paint him in a more positive light than he deserves IMO. There were no plans to save the world.


Can you point to any one thing he said which no one else has said before? Maybe an insightful comment to help understand his "relevant perspective"?

He got a degree from MIT, did a year at Jane Street, but is unable to keep basic financial records??? This doesn't make sense to me, and seems like obvious fraud.


I don't think he has any special wisdom to impart, but I really like the potential payoff opportunity. Something really funny could happen! Like a pie in his face or a profoundly self-unaware quip that sends the crowd into half shrieking laughter and half boos.


He’s a criminal fraudster.


I would withhold judgement. For all we know the interviewer (who is going to be much more prepared and informed than people here) is going to press him in front of thousands of people why he stole people's money and lied about it. Let's see.


Given it's Andrew Ross Sorkin, he probably won't.


It's an interview not a talk (see my other comment)


All he seems to be able to say is that yes, he did YOLO with customer funds, and he is really sorry and wishes he didn't do that.


Has he moved on to wishing he didn't do that? I've only heard him say he wished the YOLO worked.


I'm not interested at all, going by his Twitter, it will all be complete nonsense. Hopefully he's intercepted by the FBI and finally brought to justice.


A congressional commitee hearing would accomplish it.


Yeah, interviewing is fine but should be police/feds, not a publicity event where he can further his own agenda.


He can say that they were testing a new AI system that failed while they were sleeping...


Yes, same. Sorkin says he won't hold back.


This is a huge red flag. Bankman-Fried is acting like the fix is already in.

I won't believe this guy is actually going to prison until they slam the iron bars closed behind him.


I doubt any organized crime was using FTX. And if they were, he seems mart enough to pay them back first. But if there was some smallish organization of contraband dealers using FTX and he didn't know? White collar prison isn't his worst case outcome.

As said earlier he has bribed the right big fish. But ignoring angry medium fish can be a problem. Also those might not be bribes. It might be a way to launder money into campaign contributions. Not that you really need that in the US now.


If you're trusting what SBF is implying about a fix being in, well I have some FTT to sell you.

The guy is going to jail. If you want to make a bet on it, I'm willing to do so.




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