The Wikipedia section you linked is a collection of evidence-free "concerns." I think most people at HN are aware of the basic situation with Huawei: there are hypothetical "concerns" but no evidence of Huawei ever having engaged in espionage. You can say that it's black and white that Huawei is a tool of Chinese espionage, but you're just speaking from your priors, not from the evidence.
> the dystopian nightmare that is Chinese warrantless spying on their own citizens
Now who's changing the subject? If you're in China, yes, the government has enormous power to surveil you. If you're outside of China, there's no evidence that the Chinese government is using Huawei to spy on you. Given the level of interest in Huawei, I think we'd have heard by now if there were concrete evidence. Instead, all we get are endless hypotheticals. If you're in the US, it's simply a fact that you're much more likely to be surveiled by the US government than by the Chinese government.
> If you're outside of China, there's no evidence that the Chinese government is using Huawei to spy on you.
The level of naïveté you need to believe an authoritarian government building a dystopian surveillance state at home (including targeting and funneling undesirable ethnicities to prison camps) wouldn't extend that collection to foreign countries via a de facto state controlled company...well I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Great price, get in touch.
But of course you know better. You aren't a liar, you are cynical. You say things you know aren't true, in the service of protecting your greater worldview. The other word for that is "troll" - which means I won't waste my time here any longer.
> the dystopian nightmare that is Chinese warrantless spying on their own citizens
Now who's changing the subject? If you're in China, yes, the government has enormous power to surveil you. If you're outside of China, there's no evidence that the Chinese government is using Huawei to spy on you. Given the level of interest in Huawei, I think we'd have heard by now if there were concrete evidence. Instead, all we get are endless hypotheticals. If you're in the US, it's simply a fact that you're much more likely to be surveiled by the US government than by the Chinese government.