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That journalist is an arrogant and ignorant asshole, he reaches conclusions - that he then states as if they were fact - about Reiser's personality as if he were a trained psychologist/psychiatrist, and as if he has studied and analyzed the subject.

Every bone in my body wants to projectile vomit upon reading that crud.

I find it to be just another case of math envy, the imbecile KNOWS that he could never in a million years achieve 1% of what Reiser has achieved, however Reiser is now a convicted murderer, thus the idiot can now feel better about himself, and hurl contempt and scorn on Reiser.

I also find the general tone of the article to be awful insidious.



Contempt and scorn are appropriate feelings to have for murderers.

I thought this article was interesting because the author had spent a lot of time watching Reiser in court and might be speaking some truth about Reiser's personality.

Is there anyone here that knew Reiser more intimately than this journalist, and could give us some feedback?


"Contempt and scorn are appropriate feelings to have for murderers."

Oh really? What about those trained to kill? Such as those in the military?

This is a tangent, but I'm curious...


The definition of murder as "the unlawfully killing of a human with malice aforethought" is a good one that applies well to Hans Reiser and shows the importance of motivation in determining whether or not someone is a criminal.

When soldiers are learning to kill an enemy that may not even exist, they have very different motivations when compared to someone that is planning to kill a personal enemy.

I believe that both individuals and nations have the right of self-defense, so I don't hold contempt for anyone that is learning to kill in order to defend himself or the people he has a responsibility to defend.


Hmm. That is a good point.


Thanks. Your question made me really think.


I find the motivation behind his contempt and scorn to be not that of someone who despises a murderer, but that of someone who is envious of someone's superior intellect.

Notice how he attempts to belittle Reiser, how he throws in the "genius" word . . .

I have been the focus of that sort of envy before, and it is written ALL over that nitwit's piece.

He's pathetic.


Assuming some basic threshold of intelligence, it's much more important to most people how pleasant someone is to be around than how smart they are. If you do fit into this "antisocial genius" archetype (which you're tossing around every bit as loosely as the author of the article), chances are good that how people treat you has nothing to do with envy, and everything to do with how you treat them.

Just saying, is all.


Interesting that you would state that I am "tossing around" an "'antisocial genius' archetype" "every bit as loosely as the author of the article" . . . first off, WHAT "'antisocial genius' archetype"? . . . (there someone goes again, playing armchair psych, which has been my point all along) second of all, just WHERE did you get this "'antisocial genius' archetype" from in my posts? Serious. Please quote me. Please.

You make no sense whatsoever dude.


[The author is] someone who is envious of someone's superior intellect . . . I have been the focus of that sort of envy before

As to the antisocial bit, I'm not going to quote your posts in their entirety, but that's a pretty big chip you've got on your shoulder, man.


Yeah ok man, I have a chip on my shoulder for stating what I perceive and asking that you quote me after you replied to my post as if it stated something that it simply did not state.

Come on bud, get real.


  I have taken liberties
  with your words
  that were on
  the internet

  and which
  you were probably
  writing
  for a receptive audience

  forgive me
  they were delicious
  so righteous
  and so vehement


Thanks for the comedy relief


Okay, I'm sorry, really. I made what I thought (and still think) is an accurate synopsis of your posts. You disagree, and that's fine.

I don't think any further progress is going to be made here.


You still haven't quoted me. It all comes down to that: you insist that my posts state something they do not, and I insist that you back up what you are saying by quoting my posts.

Now, if I had MEANT (and yet not precisely written) what you insist I stated, I would say so, and debate my point based on that. That, however, wasn't the case, and I HATE IT when people put words in my mouth (or writing) I can't fn stand it, and I think you noticed, and simply baited me.

You really come off like an MBA or some other type of suit clad miscreant - never thought I would run into your type of reaction on a forum for HACKERS. It is rather ironic that yours is basically the type of reaction I have gotten from the crowd at work that I made reference to earlier.


Come on, you two, please stop baiting and shouting respectively.


I honestly never meant for this to be contentious. Apologies all around.


Ok, will do. Sorry.


The article tells us nothing new about Reiser except that the author interviewed him and didn't like him very much. The author even tells us why he wrote it:

"I had written a book, and his story was crucial to it, but the book was really about me."

He interviewed Reiser purely for material for his book about what he thinks of murderers (spoiler: murderers are bad). Given this, it's not surprising that he would sell a chapter to Salon for money and publicity. The article is not journalism, it's part of an autobiography largely unrelated to Reiser that nevertheless capitalizes on the publicity surrounding his trial.


Hey, I hear Mussolini made the trains run on time.

Hans Reiser is merely a wife-beater, liar, sociopath, and murderer. He's completely worthy of the writer's utter contempt and scorn.


I will dispute the sociopath observation. Even if you happen to be a trained mental health care professional, you have not sufficiently observed and analyzed the subject in question.

That really gets under my skin, people who play armchair psychologist/psychiatrist. Why? Because I have been victimized at work (back when I used to be an employee) by that very same type of ignorant joker.

"Oh, he has PERSONALITY problems."

RIGHT, I have PERSONALITY PROBLEMS, simply because I am not a lying, cheating, backstabbing, envious little slacker like the majority of the sheeple at the office.

Sigh.

Ok, I admit I have become emotional about this, but my original point still stands: non mental health care professionals have NO business voicing "diagnosis" about ANYONE'S mental health (or lack thereof)


I call bullshit: this is like saying that people who don't have teaching credentials have no business teaching anyone anything, or without barber's licenses cutting hair, or programmer's licenses writing code.

Note the experience of the psychologist who tried the experiment of getting himself committed by impersonating a schizophrenic to doctors at the ER, who then took quite a while to get released: all the patients knew he was sane, but the doctors, once he had been labelled, were very hard to convince otherwise.


Any article about that psychologist who got himself committed? Sounds interesting.


I was obviously not talking about credentials (do quote me if I did please) I was talking about having the KNOWLEDGE, TRAINING, AND SKILL required to diagnose a human's mind.

And your comparisons are quite amusing, even if simple . . . you went from teaching, to cutting hair, and finally to programming . . . and this is in a discussion revolving around mental health care. Interesting, considering that there is simply no comparison between any of the four activities.

How dare you equate programming to cutting hair.

EDIT: before you even go there, the word "professional" does not only apply to those with credentials.




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