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small nitpick, the x220 came out in mid/late 2011 and x230 in mid/late 2012, that's not 12 years ago.

And if you rightfully say "but 9 years is bad enough".. yes, but my x230 is only a little slower than my T460p and if I ignore the mobile Ryzens I don't see how a 2020 Lenovo T would be meaningfully better/faster than my 4 year old T460p.



Sorry for not fact checking I just repeated what someone said to me recently as I was debating this choice.




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