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SARS-CoV-2 Point of Entry into Cells Captured by Cryo-EM (genengnews.com)
51 points by ajaviaad on March 14, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 24 comments


This is what I see when I click the above link

https://imgur.com/a/NPKYdBR

The web had been well and truly ruined


The relevant paper: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/03/scie...

Note:

Official names have been announced for the virus responsible for COVID-19 (previously known as “2019 novel coronavirus”) and the disease it causes. The official names are:

Disease

coronavirus disease (COVID-19)

Virus

severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...


The artwork on this Science PDF looks excellent.

However, on the Linux I am using, the text color on the images is not fully consistent with the art, nor is its description below the figures.

This can get more confusing with the superimposed structures in Figure 5.


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> The common name for the virus is Wuhan virus.

Except the common name for the virus is _not_ wuhanvirus. This simple fact destroys your entire point.

The virus is overwhelmingly known as coronavirus, and less known by it's official WHO designation SARS-CoV-2, or the illness it causes, Coronavirus disease.

It's true that we sometimes refer to novel pathogens by their first known origin, but it's hardly a general rule. We don't call SARS foshanvirus, and we don't call H1N1 American flu. If you used any of these names, no one would know what you're talking about.

It's not particularly strange for the public to refer to a novel virus by it's original location, but it is extremely strange when people want to redefine the common name as location-based when it's already widely known by a different, more distinguishing name.

Your point is that the thoughtpolice are out in full force to redefine our language in politically correct terms. But that's not what's happening at all. The entire world already knows the virus by an altogether different name, and it is you out to redefine it by its location, a less distinguishing feature.


Coronavirus is a less distinguishing name. There are many types of coronavirus, including SARS and MERS. There are types of coronavirus that are only in animals.

Here is the media prior to the thoughtpolice, using the common name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LT_up3ltqo


The WHO has already named the virus SARS-CoV-2, which perfectly distinguishes it.

Commonly, the pathogen is referred to as coronavirus.

As I said, I don't have any particular problem with naming a virus after its location. I think it's natural to do so when a novel pathogen arises in a particular area.

But that doesn't mean we have to. Billions around the world are calling it simply coronavirus, the WHO has named it SARS-CoV-2, and its only your small group of right wing activists that are bizarrely insisting we rename the virus. You are the thoughtpolice.


Linnaeus has already named the animal Bos taurus, which perfectly distinguishes it.

Commonly, the animal is referred to as livestock.

...

No, we're going to call it "cow".


I think it's pretty clear why you are insisting on calling this disease wuhanvurus and have no major complaint about H1N1. It is pathetically transparent and not a great look.


> The common name for the virus is Wuhan virus.

Not anymore. It was a casual name for the virus in the very beginning, but not according to WHO standards.

If the Chinese government discourages people to use the name Wuhan virus, they are right in their argument. If they use force to enforce this discouragement, that's over the top IMO, but it is an authoritarian regime so its within their character to do so.

> No, it isn't offensive. We frequently name diseases after locations. Ebola is an example. MERS is an example. Spanish Flu is an example.

WHO recommends not to, and Spanish flu is not descriptive of its origins, as it did not origin from Spain; the rest of the world was just too busy to notice/act on it. [1]

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu


What's your opinion on this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_Nombre_orthohantavirus

Discovered in 1993 near the Canyon del Muerte on the Navajo Reservation, it was originally named the Muerto Canyon hantavirus, in keeping with the convention for naming new pathogens.[2] However, the Navajo Nation objected to the name in 1994.[3] It was also near the Four Corners point in the United States, so the virologists then tried naming it the "Four Corners virus". The name was changed after local residents raised objections.[4] In frustration, the virologists changed it to Sin Nombre, meaning "without a name" in Spanish.

Was that the Chinese government also pressuring people into not wanting to use the common name? Or is it that using the location in the name of a disease just kind of a jerk-thing to do?


I think you linked to a picture of a cookie something. I can't be really sure, to be honest, because imgur won't show the picture because they "value my privacy."


It’s a cookie modal pop up over top of a “create an account!” modal pop up, which itself is over the content.

Pure madness! Thanks, web developers.


You forgot an alert confirmation dialog at the bottom...

There were three confirmation dialogs. Two of which we can blame the developers/company [1], one we can blame the EU’s good intentions but terrible execution idea.

[1] being prompted for alerts and making an account on first visiting a content site is so dumb, not to mention layering 3x modals, but some alert prompting by the OS/browser is fine


Developers partially share the blame for cookie dialogs as well. They could choose not to use cookies, knowing the alternative is an annoying dialog, but they choose to go the path of annoyance.


That cookie scenario is pretty unrealistic. I don’t think that decision has ever happened on a news site or any serious online business. This was entirely predictable that it would just be something people learn to click okay automatically without even reading it and it’s never geofiltered either. It’s a Windows approach to ‘privacy’ (annoying alerts replacing carefully timed messaging) that does little to influence decision making.


Ironically I only saw it for a fraction of a second before imgur gave me a full-page (mobile) cookie pop-up.


Its opening on my blackberry device and laptop without imgur pop up.


Europe has given us many positive changes in online regulation, but the cookie warning is not among the positive.

Please, can we get rid of cookie warning? If we we want to do something, let's regulate the path browser makers are already pursuing on third party cookies.


One thing that drives me insane is clicking "accept all" then to be presented another screen to press "close" to dismiss the dialogue. What on earth are they thinking?


These is no law which requirers you to warn for all Cookies.

Beides some degree of misunderstanding most sides which show you a cookie (or GDPR) banner or similar do so _because they track you_.

So why not instead stop tracking people all the time?

The fact that you see banners everywhere should be a warning about how messed up the state of the web is.

Also as a side note it's most times not even tracking for basic aggregate statistics but tracking and sharing unaggregated data with many other companies to a degree which strongly reduces your privacy _much below the point of privacy you have in real life_!


I got zero ads when I opened it. I'm using Firefox for Android with uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger extensions.


yes. the web is broken.

and advertisement is the reason. the pest of the internet.


the true coronavirus is for our attention.


This is the experience for more than half the websites I browse on mobile. I just don't even bother anymore.




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