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This. This is the solution. AdNausium will destroy the ad market. Adblocking users will engage in toxic behaviors if you force them to.

The problem is that sites trying some insane techniques is a bad arms race.

Sites like the wallsteet journal made a adblock-wall, see ads or don't use the site. That's fine. They can do that. And they lost lots of traffic. But they can decide if they like that.

Websites want a have-your-cake-and-eat-it option -- forcibly show ads, no opt out.



Nothing stops google from banning your account if you are using AdNausium, not only from youtube, but from gmail and all other properties. Joys of SSO. Maybe a TOC change or two. Few public cases like that and AdNausium is dead in the water.

That's why I'm not using it personally, even though I'd love to...


could you use FF containers so that your google account cookies are isolated to google properties?

then you can go mad on everything outside the container


Yeah FF containers are definitely not going to stop Google from knowing who you are. Browser fingerprinting is still a thing.


I (and I think I speak for most of us- so this is clarifying for later readers) don't object to ads as long as they are not trackers.

The next anti-tracking technology should include fake tracking.


> I (and I think I speak for most of us- so this is clarifying for later readers)

What makes you say you’re speaking for most of us?


Engaging with these threads for a couple of years. I will say though that there seem to be more people here in the biz of tracking than there used to be.


That would be extremely counterintuitive. Ads are visible; they give people reason to object to them even without knowing much about them, because their existence is intentionally intrusive.

Tracking doesn't mean anything to most people.


True; I by "us" I mean HN folks- people who know.


Ad Nauseum is not a threat to any modern ad network. It's easily caught and the results are filtered out.


Where is the source for the traffic loss claim? Their profile on Alexa looks healthy and their rank has improved over time


Want to take a guess on where Alexa gets its data from that it then uses to estimate traffic and ranks?


From a sampling of users:

https://support.alexa.com/hc/en-us/articles/200449744-How-ar...

Why ask a vague winky-face question when you can make your assertion instead? Now I have to wait for you to respond just for you to clarify what you were trying to say.


This link is very vague: they only talk about a “global data panel” without saying how it’s constructed. You can’t build a representative sample if you don’t have an idea of what the global traffic might be like. See also https://blog.alexa.com/alexa-panel-increase/:

> our traffic estimates are based on data from our global panel, which is a sample of millions of Internet users using one of many different browser extensions. However, we don’t just rely on browser extensions. We also gather much of our traffic data from direct sources, including sites that have chosen to install the Alexa script and certify their metrics. It is this unique combination of data from our global panel, plus data from directly measured sources, filtered through our advanced statistical models that allow us to provide you with robust and comprehensive metrics.




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