> Dying in the battlefield in an honorable way was seen as a good way to leave this place and go to the next one.
Do you really not see that this was sick propaganda, propagated by evil dictators in need of cannon (sword?) fodder?
There's nothing honorable about war or battlefields. It's the worst of the human condition, distilled to the highest concentration. War is repugnant, evil, and unnecessary. We humans should move to rid ourselves of it, not spread fucked up fairy tales about it on the internet.
Honorable, pff. Say that again when you're slowly bleeding out in a ditch somewhere fighting someone else's battle.
> Do you really not see that this was sick propaganda, propagated by evil dictators in need of cannon (sword?) fodder?
If this is only propaganda of dictators, how do you explain the existence of these views within the ancient republics and democracies? Or within the earlier pre-settled tribes? (not sure if this was the case everywhere, but I know the attitude was quite prevalent within the tribes of europe)
I am not too narrow minded so I see war as a not good thing and a as a not bad thing.
I don't like seeing anything in this world as a good or a bad thing.
War is something that comes to us by default. Its in our nature, as its in every animals nature for survival. Its not something pushed to us by dictators and what not.
Also I don't agree with your sentence of removing poems, legends and whatever from the internet. Let each person decide for himself whats to be filtered in his head or not. The internet should be free, accessible and non filtered.
About war being neither good or bad but unavoidable, I don't think we'll come to an agreement. I truly believe that we can make the world free of war through a combination of honesty about the horrors of war (so that well-fed people stop supporting it) and the technological progress which will inevitably give all humans food on their table and a roof over their heads (iff we don't fuck up the climate first).
Your argument is well formulated, however, and while I disagree with it I appreciate the way you bring it. Thanks for that.
> Also I don't agree with your sentence of removing poems, legends and whatever from the internet.
But I didn't suggest anything of the sort. You didn't cite these poems as a matter of historical fact, you referred to them in mild agreement to make a point. There's a major difference. I'm surprised that you interpret an attack on your argument as an attempt to censor history. Not every pacifist is a marxist.
In fact, I suspect that we strongly agree that ideas that people used to support but most Westerners now think of as barbarian (eg "homosexuals are evil", "black people are animals but they can harvest cotton pretty well" and IMO also "dying for your warlord is honorable") should remain accessible in history books, online and offline.
Do you really not see that this was sick propaganda, propagated by evil dictators in need of cannon (sword?) fodder?
There's nothing honorable about war or battlefields. It's the worst of the human condition, distilled to the highest concentration. War is repugnant, evil, and unnecessary. We humans should move to rid ourselves of it, not spread fucked up fairy tales about it on the internet.
Honorable, pff. Say that again when you're slowly bleeding out in a ditch somewhere fighting someone else's battle.