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The same is occurring in Europe and even America. The establishment is threatened as a result of this mass immigration. Perhaps the difference is that the Saudis do not suffer from white guilt and, hence, attempts at rational discourse are not drown out with calls of racism, Islamophobia, and xenophobia.


When you criminalize a certain pattern of thought, it seems that its inverse will eventually get taken to the most extreme position.


That does appear to be the case


It is already socially unacceptable to promote ethnic cleansing of any sort. Sure, it's important to continually affirm this, but can you name anyone in the Trump administration who is promoting ethnic cleansing?


> can you name anyone in the Trump administration who is promoting ethnic cleansing?

All of them, since that's the purpose of this administration


Just as every one of Hitler's cabinet-level ministers was deemed at the very least complicit in that regime's crimes against humanity, so it every single one of Trumpf's cronies guilty for being an enabler of these disgusting, hateful, racist and un-American violations of fundamental human rights.

Every last one of them needs to be brought to justice and called to account for their inaction in the face of ethnic cleansing once this illegitimate "president" is finally impeached (and mark my word, that day is coming much sooner than you think). Every. Single. One. Of. Them.


Seriously, a green card is a fundamental right now? I know plenty of people that were denied Visas to the US all of them are "white privileged" and most of them are "males", all of which either studied in the US or wanted to work there after completing a master's program or a PHD, all of which have successfully passed interviews and some of the most rigorous hiring processes in the industry.

By using this infantile rhetoric and making every statement at best a hyperbole and at worse a complete fabrication you are doing a great disservices for your cause.

You talk about ethnic cleansing like you know it, while ignoring the true horrors that go around the world, you gladly ignore what is happening in Africa, Asia, heck I would also take a big presumption and assume you were in the camp that was against a no fly zone and intervention in Syria.

From all your statements you seem to ignore the plight of millions in favor a the privileged few, because give me a break a honor student from Iran that can't get back into the country and now is facing with having to switch her PHD from MIT to another uni if it's not resolved isn't a 9 year old schoolgirl sold into slavery. Even the true "refugees" that come to the US are the privileged few that could afford spending as much as 50,000$ to get to the US and to have their asylum request processed. Is this right, no, is this unfair yes, is this sad yes, but this isn't tragic, this isn't a travesty, what is a travesty is the likes of you shaming artists on twitter that commit the greatest sin of scheduling gigs in Israel while ignoring the rape and murder of 100,000's of people around the world.


The OP is just virtue-signaling. He presumably still buys products from third-world dictatorships. Let's ask him. OP, how can you justify boycotting America and not China or a myriad of other countries that are ruled under a far more oppressive regime.


Which products these might be?

Btw a number of vendors mark third world products as "ethically sourced", so it's possible to avoid products from dictatorships.


The difference is that places like China have very little influence over "us". We trade, that's it. Whereas the US, through Hollywood, Nato, SV and general industry, has humongous cultural and economic influence. When my Prime Minister goes hand-in-hand with your President and licks his gold-plated boots, we feel it. When you "help" our neighbors fall into civil war and we get millions of refugees, we feel it. And so on and so forth. This why we feel a duty to resist and condemn trends in American politics that we see as destructive: because you are our Rome and we can't afford you to take your imperial duties this lightly.


What's there to justify? Even if 'eksemplar is a hypocrite, but is accurately representing the opinions of a large number of Scandinavians, we, the US, have an economic problem, and saying "You're all hypocrites" isn't going to solve the problem.

(Also, go back to Reddit with your "OP" business.)


> (Also, go back to Reddit with your "OP" business.)

OP is short for original post(er). It's much older than both Reddit and HN.


There is no evidence, at least not for such a general claim. Each human has a wildly different experience. For many of us, we never left this era. For others, we have been out of it X years. Etc.


This comment is especially relevant, given yesterday's popularity of Scott Aaronson's blog post.


What is the Scott Aaronson's blog post? Could you post a link please?


Perhaps one reason could be changing gender norms.


From the article, 40% reported stressors such as "being single, divorced or separated",


Have we really ever left the "Era of the Bully"?

Do you think China or Russia care about "hurting" others through their actions? You will be competing with them. Can you punish them as effectively as you can "punish" Britain?


> Have we really ever left the "Era of the Bully"?

We had left it. In the EU.

> Do you think China or Russia care about "hurting" others through their actions? You will be competing with them

We are competing with China and Russia. To do that we need to be strong. That's one of the reasons why EU membership is important. Thanks for pointing that out.

> Can you punish them as effectively as you can "punish" Britain?

We are not punishing Britain. Britain is leaving the EU. Any deal we get is a new deal. Nothing can be taken for granted, by the EU or by the UK. If the UK does not get access to the EU market, it is because it is

a) either not in the interest of the UK to accept compromises offered by the EU

b) or not in the interest of the EU to accept what the UK is proposing



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