Sure is! the issue is that people's attention isn't -- most people on the web stick to a few web pages; their social media of choice (facebook, tiktok, etc...) and their news provider of choice (CNN, Fox, NBC).
Putting up a website is easy, pulling traffic away from bigger sites is much more difficult
Hey, I think you're a superhero for making this place such wonderful forum for deep and interesting conversation, but isn't there some point where you might consider putting your finger on the scale to help stop the slide into authoritarianism? This seems like the moment, maybe?
It's a matter of taking his finger off the scale... Stop taking down threads with productive discussion just because they conflict with your worldview (and financial interests)
What you call "taking finger off scale" would turn HN into a politics / current affairs site. I know that some of you want that, and a few even wonder how we can possibly be so evil as not to do it, but it is simply not the kind of site that HN is. That is the case regardless of what terminology you use - fingers on scales, curation, moderation, - which are different ways of describing the same thing.
I'm not sure why you need to invoke cynical motives for us running HN this way, since the reasons we give for this (which are quite real) explain things better. (for example, if we only cared about suppressing this stuff, why would HN be having frontpage threads about it at all? that doesn't make much sense.) But that's just me.
I think it would help you guys to understand that most of the HN community, even most who agree with you politically, do not want us to throw in the towel and let HN become like the rest of the internet. Only a small portion of users want this, though they do post intense (and sometimes even aggressive) comments about it. Given that HN has always stuck to its mandate and that the community wants us to keep doing so, I don't see this as a close call.
Most of the social spaces that I frequent don't have the amount of political topics posted as HN.
Would you like to know the difference between those spaces and here? It's that in those spaces, regardless of if the members are left right or center, the community is on the same page in terms of authoritarians, and authoritarian apologia will get you tossed.
Therefore, there isn't the same sort of desire - or need - to point out the obvious and show the uncomfortable realities to the crowd.
Refusing to take a stand on this sort of thing and leaving it for the community to sort out will only make things worse. It's functionally no different than the kind of combative environment you get on major social media networks; the only difference is the amount of tone policing caused by the user-facing moderation tools.
Currently there is not a single remotely political post on the front page, as the moderators intended. But yes I should believe you and not my lying eyes
Not only could you not allow the article posted, but even my comment on your actions was flagged. Stop censuring criticism because it makes you uncomfortable
> Currently there is not a single remotely political post on the front page, as the moderators intended. But yes I should believe you and not my lying eyes
This was on the frontpage for 18 hours yesterday: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117 - Jan 2026 (861 comments). 18 hours is about as much coverage as any frontpage story gets. It was there when I posted my GP comment and for a good 7 or 8 hours after that.
What you call "believing your eyes" depends on what you notice, which depends on how you feel (and particularly on what you dislike [1]). If you felt differently, you would notice different things and make different generalizations. (I don't mean you personally, of course—we're all this way.)
Your comment seems to assume that there must be one or more political stories on HN's front page at all times. There's no such rule. I get that you want more—everyone wants more of their preferred topics on HN's front page, including me. You're simply at odds with the kind of site this is and what we optimize it for [2], as well as with the bulk of the community, which wants something different than what you want. Treating that as moral failings of evil admins, accusing us of lying and so on, is not an interpretation I think most people here would agree with.
> even my comment on your actions was flagged. Stop censuring criticism because it makes you uncomfortable
Anyone who reads HN regularly knows that there's tons of criticism here of the site, the admins, the community - in fact, every aspect of HN is constantly being criticized and complained about. It's a bit odd to call that "killing all discussion that is critical."
Glad to see this post didn't get flagged like the one that was posted yesterday on a similar topic about ICE data mining and user tracking.
Obviously I'm not the only one noticing the one sided censorship. If you want to ban political discussion, just be honest about it.
You called my parent comment false, yet this post is still flagged... Add gaslighting to the list. I better hush up before my whole account gets banned...
I'm not saying we always make the right calls on individual stories—we don't—but we try our best to apply those principles, as well as to explain them clearly.
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Edit: you edited your comment after I replied - if you do that, can you please note where you're editing it? Otherwise it's unfair to readers, who can't track in what order the conversation developed.
I'm not sure I understand the last bit, but your comment which I called false is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46758424, and that was because everything it says is false. I didn't flag that post, didn't kill discussion, don't "protect the interests of this administration", and don't kill all discussion that is critical.
We don't ban accounts for criticizing us. We ban them for breaking the site guidelines.
I'm replying to you, and that seems to be working!
If other users need this information, there are thousands of other posts where they can get it, and we post more every day. It's more or less always the same information because the underlying principles don't change, or at least haven't in a long while.
> isn't there some point where you might consider putting your finger on the scale to help stop the slide into authoritarianism? This seems like the moment, maybe?
posting isn't praxis. what do you think more articles on this site will achieve?
Federal government can't be sued for defamation. "Federal sovereign immunity" basically says the government can't be sued unless it agrees to waive the immunity, and it doesn't for defamation cases.
I thought about putting xDS in, but I worried it might be confusing for people who might not know the xDS specifics of Envoy. But now I'm second guessing it lol.
You literally can't access the internal devices with the NAT implementation on most consumer level router/access points except for packets addressed to the port mapped to an already open connection originating from the inside. This is almost guaranteed to be a random high port. There's no way to access any other port on an internal ip address.
That's equivalent to default-deny.
I think either you're just trying to "well-actually" us or you're confused.
I think understand what GP is saying; if you manage to get a packet to the internet port of the NAT router with a destination IP of e.g. 192.168.0.123, and the NAT router is running a generic IPv4 routing stack, it will dutifully route it to the internal network.
This can be done by compromising another host on the same link. It can also be done if anything on the same link (including the router itself) is running an improperly configured tunneling setup that lets the attacker send e.g. an IP-in-IP packet that gets unwrapped. The NAT has made it much harder to get a packet establishing an inbound connection to the router, but doesn't actually prevent the establishment of a connection should such a packet get there.
Compare to a default-deny firewall with public addresses on the LAN. Any inbound connections will be dropped, by definition; the lack of NAT makes it trivial to get a packet to the firewall itself, but once it's there, it won't get through.
I'm not. You literally can do this, provided there's no firewall. All you need to do is send the router a packet that's already addressed to a LAN machine, and in it goes. "NAT won't translate the packet" doesn't matter if the address is already set to an IP from the LAN.
Most consumer-level routers do have a firewall to prevent it from happening, and if they don't then people describe that router as being "grossly misconfigured" or as having a security vulnerability and similar things, so in practice it'll be blocked. But that's my point: they need the firewall to do the job precisely because NAT doesn't do it.
Right, and in a similar situation, if the internal device was given a routable ipv6 address by the ISP's cable modem, you could directly access that device.
This isn't a hypothetical. There are ISPs who do this out of the box. I plugged a linux box into my ISP's cable modem/router in Amsterdam and immediately noticed my ssh port was getting hammered by port scanners. This isn't what most customers, especially those who aren't technically sophisticated, expect.
I could do it if it was using a routable v4 address too, and I can do it with either RFC1918 or ULA as well (which are both routable, just not over the Internet) if I can get close enough to send the relevant packets. NAT provides no protection against any of these.
You don't normally see many SSH brute force attempts on v6, let alone getting hammered by them. I do see some, but it's mostly to obvious addresses like <prefix>::2, ::3 etc which I don't use, or to IPs you can scrape from TLS cert logs. If you set an ssh server up on an IP that you don't publicize, finding it is hard.
I have lots of skepticism about everything involved in this, but on this particular point:
It's a bit like TSMC: you couldn't buy space on $latestGen fab because Apple had already bought it all. Many companies would have very much liked to order H200s and weren't able to, as they were all pre-sold to hyperscalers. If one of them stopped buying, it's very likely they could sell to other customers, though there might be more administrative overhead?
Now there are some interesting questions about Nvidia creating demand by investing huge amounts of money in cloud providers that will order nv hardware, but that's a different issue.
Its probably not very likely that if a large buyer pulled out, NVIDIA could just sell to other customers. If a large buyer pulls out, that's a massive signal to everyone else to begin cutting costs as well. The large buyer either knows something everyone else doesn't, or knows something that everyone else has already figured out. Either way, the large buyer pulling out signals "I don't think the overall market is large enough to support this amount of compute at these prices at current interest rates" and everybody is doing the same math too.
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