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I see that as wishful thinking. HN has always been very much right leaning. I very much doubt much has changed.

Fair enough. All the more reason for HN to conduct a survey. It would be interesting to find out.

HN is not perfect, but “right-leaning”? What the actual fuck are you smoking

HN has been right leaning? That seems an odd take. Most comments I see on here lean more progressive. Or are you talking about the billionaire tech class who are in their own demographic?

Wonkish, pro free trade, knows who Murray Rothbard is right leaning, not populist modern right wing.

Progressive and right-leaning are not in contradiction with each other, in that corner you will find most libertarians.

I also notice the commentariat here is progressive, but it seems the silent but pervasive downvote campaigns are dominated by, or more charitably, inadvertently aligned with those MAGA oriented views. I’ve come to think of the right wingers mainly contributing to the community with their downvotes. Perhaps they don’t feel they would fair well if they tried to engage in discussion? But it’s an interesting dynamic that a group of silent individuals only make their presence known through the conspicuousness of the censorship they leave in their wake.

> Perhaps they don’t feel they would fare[sic] well if they tried to engage in discussion?

Most of the time when I do see blatant “rightposting” it’s so misinformed and provocative to be indistinguishable from trolling / baiting, so I can’t even tell if it’s downvotes for disagree vs downvotes for suspected trolling.

The less blatant “rightposting” flies quite a bit under the radar, pretty much by definition, which is what the grandparent comment was probably referring to when they said they interpreted HN as leaning right. More like laissez-faire economics.


Those downvote campaigns could easily come from bots and not real users.

In light of that possibility, HN's voting system is probably too rudimentary, private and zero-cost for the modern world. Now I'm not sure if it's naivete, laziness or meant to allow opaque maligned censorship.

Most downvote bots still appear to be observing US office hours though. There's a marked difference in voting patterns between the hours that Australia wakes up and California wakes up versus the rest of the day.

HN like a lot of SV / VC culture was more libertarian leaning than right leaning. Low taxes, minimal oversight, etc. - true largely of workers and capital alike.

The open embrace of the fascist / nativist right in SV has been more recent, and it has empowered this second Trump administration. The calculation is presumably that they can curry favor and consolidate power.


Industrialists have always benefited from aligning with rightwing authoritarian governments. SV has not shown as a whole to be immune to this. The parallels with historical occurrences is blindingly obvious, down to the speech patterns.

Maybe it'll lead the US burying their power lines


lol never gonna happen.

I live in the PNW of the US where many fires have been started by transformers exploding or whatnot.

Basically every community that has a fire as a result of transmission lines rebuilds them above ground/on poles. Just last month I was going through Detroit, Oregon and their 2-3 year old power lines were all down because of the wind storm. Detroit had a transformer explode a few years ago and it took out much of the community. They immediately rebuilt above ground.

They'll rebuild them on poles again.


Where I stay in Florida they have been burying all the lines after the last few hurricanes, thankfully.


The cost to do that is unimaginably high.


So was rural electrification to start with, but it still more than paid for itself. It has also never been easier to bury lines with horizontal boring machines.


The drones will just start digging then


Oh well, enter the matrix


Keyloggers would be considered a form of fraud, right? Customers can be protected by not allowing rooted phones which may contain malware and steal credentials, but then again Windows is a nightmare for security and nobody is banning banking from Windows.


Right, but you don't need a rooted phone to keylog someone. You can just ask their password over the phone, and people do, and it works. Or, you can install a plethora of perfectly legitimate remote access apps available on the play store.


I can spin up a NAT puncher today without having to depend on anybody. Can't say the same for IPv6.


Acrobat Reader was called "Adobe Reader" for a good number of years.


Europe is west of the US


This is just not accurate.


Feel free to expand on that.


again, the GOP in the months leading up to the election spent more on anti-trans rhetoric than all other issues combined, including immigration and the economy. if you saw any of these ads and the literal hate being spewed, you maybe would understand better.


I haven't seen these ads, happy for you to link them (as I said in my other comment).


linked them in a reply to your other comment


It's smart to explore your options.


We're talking about the right to life here and you're trivializing that.


Yes. There are a lot of factors that cause price increases but it's convenient to blame it on the workers.


It's convenient to raise prices whenever you are presented with an excuse.

Opportunistic price increase.


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