I've worked remote very often and ive always felt that the current open plan offices are way too much of a distraction to get work done. This is the right change and remote working needs this change to happen despite the whining by the usual suspects of people sitting in office until late for no other reason than pleasing their bosses.
Hopefully, the focus will no move to tangible results being delivered than what dress you wear and how much time you spend at office.
Again, the above view is the government line and is meant to misguide and create ambiguity. Read the CAA in combination with the NRC to understand how it is similar to the Nuremberg laws.
This thread has a lot of government propaganda shills.
Please don't break the HN guidelines by insinuating that commenters you disagree with are shills or astroturfing. After many years investigating this kind of thing on HN I can tell you that it is basically always an imaginary perception, and it degrades discussion badly, so it's not allowed here. Lots more explanation: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
Also, using multiple accounts this way will get your accounts banned on HN, so please don't do that.
Some of you guys are actively flagging my post to support the government disinformation and propaganda on this thread.
Let me repeat: The NRC and CAA need to be read together. When read together you understand how close it is to the Nuremberg laws.
The current Indian government has nothing to offer and is a repressive regime baring its fangs. Companies should be advised to stay clear of the region for a while.
Your comment is disingenuous and obfuscates the logic of the issue.
The combo of the NRC+CAA ensures that Indians without papers are liable to be in internment camps. If you don't have papers, you are declared an illegal. There are a lot of Indians who don't have formal documentation. There is also a lot of corruption that makes it possible for officials to reject formal documents. You then get declared illegal.
Once in an internment camp, you cant go anyplace else. If you are a muslim, you don't have the option of getting out of the camp at all. if you are a poor Indian or a dissenter of any sort, you will face the same logic and all documents you produce will be deemed unfit.
A single internment camp costs 40Crores to make. To house just the northeast's so called illegals, you need close to 25K crores. This is a government that has just recently said no to primary education budgets for lack of cash. You think they have the budgets for large scale concentration camps? No. They are building up for a pogrom.
This is straight up Nazi policy.
The other question I keep asking is how is this a legitimate government if all the voters themselves have been designated illegal/noncitizens by default?
Last question and a prediction, why is the government transferring the workload of proving citizenship on to the population? This is to make people protest. Given enough protests, they will flip the policy to say, "hear hear, no, we will find the illegals for you, no need to stand in queues." Once they do that, they will form squads and informers like in Nazi Germany and hunt down the "unwanted."
Because the past actions have left us with no faith in its abilities to act responsibly. In November 2016 the government just woke up one night and declared the highest denominations of Indian currency as illegal tender (not just not legal, but possession of it beyond a set date would be treated with jail time). This was apparently to curb black money. Everyone knew that black money was almost never stored in cash, but in land and real estate. Tonnes of evidence then came up how BJP candidates themselves distributed boxes full of newly monetized notes to the ones they favor. This was during a time when the common man stood in queues at cash points to withdraw their own money only to be rationed a fraction of it due to distribution problems with the newly minted notes.
The effects of this gimmick was the obliteration of the small sector economy throughout the country and is now the backbone of financial crunch the country is facing. Also it completely failed to nail the black money problem it was proposed to solve. Widespread corruption and the BJP candidates themselves made sure that their rich friends cleaned up the money (I got all kinds of acquaintances who did).
We do not live just in the present. My optimism with the current government has eroded by their actions in the past. When such laws alienate an entire community of people by their religion (or skin color or economic status) and we are talking about holding them in detention camps, do we keep calm and let the atrocities begin to unfold or do we protest?
Let me get your argument straight here: You are saying that because the British tried it and it didn't work that makes it ok to try again? Are you hoping for failure or success here?
Anyway, to address your question:
Because then the British were a small minority, exhausted by WW2 attempting to oppress a large majority who clearly had natural justice on their side.
This time it is a large majority attempting to victimise a smaller minority for a reason which historically has led to wars, genocides and mass killing.
Well, in every other place in the world, the government doesn't wake up one day and ask citizens to prove they are Citizens.
This is what happens if you elect bombastic incapable governments. The government doesn't realize that by their own logic they aren't elected by citizens anymore. By their own logic, they need to hold elections again I guess.
This is not a recent thing. Read about Assam Accord of 1985 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assam_Accord
The protests in eastern part of India is to uphold this accord. The current government has diluted the accord to give citizenship to these illegal immigrants(excluding Muslims, LTTE, etc) with the CAB bill.
I am from Assam. Your view is a blatant lie. My immediate right and rear neighboring families in my village are of Bihari origin and they have been living for 4 generations. This is just a small example. Thousands of people who were originally from rest of India have been living there. People of Assam are not protesting against the Indian citizens that have come from the rest of India and settled in Assam. Assamese people( & NE people by large) have been fighting against illegal immigrants from Bangladesh for more than 4 decades. The people's view in Assam is, illegal immigrants are illegal regardless of their religions, be it Hindu or Muslim and should be either deported or distributed across all the states of India so that pressure on small NE states doesn't create demographic imbalances. NRC was a mandate of Assam accord which was the culmination of 6 years long protests of the same issue during 1979-1985. Now this new law called Citizenships Amendment Act(CAA) decrees to grant citizenship to the Hindu immigrants detected by NRC exercise and deny to Muslim immigrants. Not only it provides citizenships to illegal Hindu immigrants, it also paves the way for future Hindu & Buddhist immigrants from Bangladesh to these small states which share porous borders with Bangladesh. Fear of indigenous people becoming a minority is not misplaced. Indigenous people of a state named Tripura has already become minority owing to the influx of Bangladeshi immigrants over a period of time.
There has always been anti-bengali sentiment in assam, even under the British. It was one of the reasons Assam was split away from Bengal in the first place. My family is from the Siliguri Corridor, bordering Assam, and there are plenty of people (from various ethnic groups) living there that migrated not only from Bangladesh/East Bengal but other parts of Assam/North East India in order to flee violence.
I am aware of that. I am also aware of the Nellie massacre. I am not sure how far you read Assam's history. The dis-trust of Bengali language imposition originated during the British era who brought many Bengali babus from Bengal for administrative jobs to their newly acquired Assam(most of the current's NE states). The result was, from 1836 to 1873, Bengali became the official state language in Assam. and for a community whose identity is primarily based in the Assamese language, it was a big blow. Even in present time, in Barak valley of Assam, Assamese is not recognized as a state language. Some politically motivated leaders still keep talking about throwing out the Assamese language from the entire state. Only between 1991 and 2011, the share of Assamese speakers in the state fell from 58% to 48%. This is matched by a quick rise in the share of Bengali speakers from 22% to 29% during the same period. Let's be clear, Bengali is the fourth largest speaking language in the world. All the immigrants from Bangladesh are speakers of Bangla. The suspicions of Bangla as an imposing threat to Assamese identity will remain.
Very much true, and there is certainly a lot of historical baggage there. Also, in earlier times, administratively, Assam itself was much larger before many insurgencies caused the state to be split up, and before that, Bengal was much larger (before the British split it up): https://southasiablog.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/how-did-parti...
Most of the protesters that were interviewed had the demand for a better economy, job opportunities for the youth and better infrastructure. It's less about them vs us, but for a better state of affairs for everyone. Because none of that is available and the government is now giving away citizenship to anyone coming in, the economy will take much more strained than before and things will be difficult for everyone.
> It is not the citizen's responsibility to prove he is a citizen, it is the government's responsibility to prove that he isn't.
> Guilty until proven innocent? How is that fair?
By this rationale, couldn't one claim citizenship to any country? When I arrive at a foreign border I don't say, "Allow me entry, I am a citizen, prove otherwise."
I understand that further from the border this encroachment is less justified, but still I don't think citizenship is granted until proven otherwise.
We didn't arrive at the border today, we were born here, and now we are being asked to stand in line to submit documentary proofs of not only ours but of our parents and grandparents.
You cant just wake up one day and suddenly proclaim everyone a non citizen. In that case this is a non-government having been elected by non-citizens! Right?
You can when that was the campaign promise of the election and you won the super majority to do so. Regardless of personal opinion, they did this the democratic way. We will see what the Supreme Court rules.
It is a violation of India's obligations under international law. Specifically, Part 3 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which India is a signatory of.
No, this is not a violation. It is a crime to enter India illegally, so detention cannot be considered arbitrary.
The single point of controversy is whether the Citizenship Amendment Act can omit a refugee on the basis of religion. The supreme court can issue a ruling on this and end the matter.
Naive comment as I don't know much about India... but I suppose people that were able to participate in the elections did so because they already have some form of ID and are in a census, so they would remain citizens?
Crossing a border and simply existing are very different. One is a very conscious action, and generally people are doing it on their own volition and know there are restrictions to exit and entry.
People simply living in their hometown don’t have a choice.
India follows jus sanguinis (citizenship by right of blood) as opposed to the jus soli (citizenship by right of birth within the territory). The state cannot just assume that a person has the Right of blood.
> It is a very slow computer for “normal computing purposes” though.
Can you elaborate what you're doing that is slow? In my experience, CPU wise it's plenty fast, matching typical desktop from 2008. Although memory bandwidth could be better...
Hopefully, the focus will no move to tangible results being delivered than what dress you wear and how much time you spend at office.