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My (2019) Tesla has been the most reliable car I've ever owned, but it sure seems like they're not interested in being a car company anymore.

Not having turn stalks and the drive selector, making me either pay for internet access or use bluetooth if I want to play spotify or youtube music (which I get for 'free' in cars with CarPlay or Android Auto), making the cybertruck way too big for a garage, discontinuing the model S and X...like are they even trying?

They used to have a third row option for the model Y, good for small kids or something, but then they got rid of that.

They were going to do the roadster, but didn't bother. They only have 6 paint colors, not even options for PTS. It's like they don't want to be a successful car company.


That's an uncommon experience.

Tesla is a very strong leader for faults, breakage, and costly maintenance/repairs in the 3-5 year old segment.

See any European comprehensive car inspection statistics report.


Take the reports with a grain of salt. Tesla does not mandate maintenance. The cars in the reports are the ones who left factory and get checked after 3 years of intensive use without any maintenance. Check the light alignment, check rust in the brakes and check the suspension and the inspection will be fine. Still cheaper than 400-600€ bi-yearly coolant refill from other manufacturers. Plus Tesla has published repair manual which is very strong advantage for me. I am poor and maintain my cars by myself. Maybe I like it too.

Teslas have too much play in bearings and steering column (from new) and unlike every other manufacture out there they refuse to follow the standards and says it is how it is supposed to be. This forces owners to pay to get a factory problem fixed with zero help from Tesla, otherwise their car will not pass inspections.

Also, it isn't normal for a 3-year-old car to risk dropping a wheel. You should read some more about this before you defend them.

EDIT: Here is a reddit thread about the problem (and an article in Norwegian):

>"Almost half of all Tesla Y fail mandatory tech inspection in Denmark and make headlines for it; similar numbers in Tesla-country Norway."

>"The most common issue remains slack in the wheel alignment and suspension, found in 22% of TMY's, as opposed to .1% of ID4's."

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1qmbm81/a...


> Still cheaper than 400-600€ bi-yearly coolant refill.

You are being scammed.


Still cheaper than 400-600€ bi-yearly coolant refill from other manufacturers

Wow, what car is that? Even Porsche owners would say, "Damn, son, they're taking you to the cleaners."


Mercedes does this yearly. It’s running gag from all the car influencers when they show the 800-1000€ service invoice of the EQS after first year. Imho it’s definitely a scam.

> That's an uncommon experience.

The very first thing that Tesla was criticised for was terrible QA process. The quality was random and there were huge differences between factories. So I can totally believe there are plenty of Tesla made cars that made their owners happy. Of course few people can afford such gamble.


>That's an uncommon experience.

A big part Part of the reason tesla is considered less reliable is the number of recalls it gets, most of which are software related and fixed over the air.

In terms of maintenance, it is by far the lowest cost of ownership vehicle I've had, I'm in my 40s, not exactly new to owning cars.


2019 is far too new to make any pronouncements on reliability. Get back to us in 2035.

The car is still under warranty and they are talking about reliability. A good ol' Toyota will live longer than Tesla has been a company.

All EVs will naturally be more reliable than ICE cars because there are a lot less components that can break!

> Not having turn stalks

Aren't turn stalks back now?


Yes, they've gone back to the traditional physical turn stalk.

They don’t. Their market cap is higher than all the successful car companies combined. Becoming a successful car company would cost Elon half of his unrealized capital gains. It’s far better to be the company who is going to make us $30,000 robot slaves because that’s a bigger market and one he’ll own entirely.

The only question is what will be the next hype cycle when that succeeds about as well as the Cyber Truck.


> It’s far better to be the company who is going to make us $30,000 robot slaves because that’s a bigger market and one he’ll own entirely.

The Chinese are making humanoid robots too, and my bet is they'll be better and cheaper than Tesla's.


Oh I was in no way saying I agree with any of that, just explaining how his mind seems (to me) to work.

He hyped electric cars to the point where someone in here in 2017 told me I was nuts to buy an ICE car because there wouldn’t be any gas stations left in five years. That’s why his share prices are out of proportion to reality.

Now that it turns out the EV market isn’t growing as fast as it seemed when it was all early adopters, and autonomous delivery isn’t ready and won’t be for at best a few years, he’s gotta hype the next thing.


Anthropic has one of the best moats of any business that's been created in the last 50 years.

Numerous companies have tried and failed competing with SoTA foundational models. If Anthropic had no moat, Apple and Meta wouldn't be paying them billions for coding asistance.

Meta, Amazon, Apple, and Nvidia would all have SoTA competitors to Claude. They all tried and have not produced a competitor.

Instead you have three companies that stand alone making billions from foundational models.


The open models are not far behind. Is it really a "moat" when it's so short lived and you need a brand new moat after six months? That's just ordinary competition.

They are far behind. Go check re-swe bench to see the overfitting measured

Or just try to use them. They don’t generalize as well.

They are benchmaxxed.


They're the least incompetent in the space.

Big companies are handcuffed by Innovators Dilemna etc.


> would assume (hope) that code review practices haven't changed inside of Microsoft or Google.

Google engineer perspective:

I'm actually thinking code reviews are one of the lowest hanging fruits for AI here. We have AI reviewers now in addition to the required human reviews, but it can do anything from be overly defensive at times to finding out variables are inconsistently named (helpful) to sometimes finding a pretty big footgun that might have otherwise been missed.

Even if it's not better than a huamn reviwer, the faster turnaround time for some small % of potential bugs is a big productivity boost.


> the faster turnaround time for some small % of potential bugs is a big productivity boost

For a balanced perspective, one should also account for the cost of triaging and disregarding AI findinds that aren't useful or actionable.


I don't think Uber goes out of business. There is probably a sweet spot for Waymo's steady state cars, and you STILL might want 'surge' capabilities for part time workers who can repurpose their cars to make a little extra money here and there.

I have zero doubts.


Plenty of happy engineers at the other cloud. :)


I presume you mean the Oracle cloud?


Nobody is happy with Oracle anything! It has some users because it is free. It has paid users because Larry Ellison bribed the government. Nobody would choose it voluntarily.


No, gcp. Was a happy customer for many years, now I work there.


A bunch less today than a year ago.


Keep in mind that not only did people predict the housing crash, some were certain houses would be sold for pennies on the dollar.

I bought a short sale distressed town house in 2009 for 40% lower than its peak price, and many people told me it was a terrible decision because if I just waited long enough, I'd buy it for a fraction of the price.

I think prices went a bit lower in 2010, but then I gained about 400k in equity over the next 10 years and sold it.


>And no, as an SRE I won't read DEV code, but I can help my team test it.

that doesn't sound like my definition of an SRE. How is what you're doing different than Ops?


but the partnership is fake marketing. Amazon uses TPUs more than it uses graviton, it trains on GCP, and Google owns a larger percentage because they were much earlier investors, despite amazon investing more money.


> Amazon uses TPUs more than it uses graviton, it trains on GCP

Can you share a source for this claim? Graviton is a CPU, it would be strange to train LLM (I assume you meant LLMs) on a CPU.


oops I meant tranium.


Sorry man, American raised autists beat chinese 996 every day of the week. shrug.

I mean that in the cultural sense, not racially. ABC autists are S tier too.


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